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| 04:01:58 | saurabh | hi web developers |
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| 06:36:54 | udesh | HI |
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| 06:47:55 | udesh | hi |
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| 09:24:18 | eljun | helo |
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| 09:44:43 | iGod | :) |
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| 09:57:24 | iGod | Hello? |
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| 10:25:03 | iGod | Does anyone speak in here? :P |
| 10:25:10 | gmoz | Never! |
| 10:25:14 | iGod | Woo |
| 10:25:17 | iGod | Someone's alive at least |
| 10:25:34 | zomg | Uh oh =) |
| 10:26:37 | gmoz | Most of the people who talk here are european as far as I know |
| 10:26:54 | gmoz | and it's around midday, so they're probably at school, work or other stuff |
| 10:27:23 | iGod | Ah |
| 10:27:24 | iGod | Cool |
| 10:27:45 | iGod | Well I'm at work, but I'm a web developer so it's viable for me to be in here :P |
| 10:28:20 | gmoz | hehe =) |
| 10:28:33 | iGod | Ooh, zomg's alive too! lol |
| 10:28:55 | zomg | Try reading gmoz's nick in reverse... =) |
| 10:29:12 | iGod | I did |
| 10:30:13 | nicomen | http://people.opera.com/nicolasm/userjs/dragscroll.js |
| 10:30:21 | gmoz | iGod: confused? :P |
| 10:30:25 | zomg | it's just me |
| 10:30:26 | gmoz | lol |
| 10:30:28 | zomg | =) |
| 10:30:40 | nicomen | feel free to test that out and report back ;) |
| 10:30:55 | gmoz | what's that? |
| 10:31:03 | nicomen | scroll by dragging |
| 10:31:08 | nicomen | hold down shift key |
| 10:31:11 | gmoz | oh |
| 10:31:23 | iGod | Looks easy enough to work |
| 10:31:30 | gmoz | kinda pointless but... I've done those pointless things too |
| 10:31:30 | iGod | I'll make a test page soon :D |
| 10:31:32 | gmoz | =) |
| 10:31:36 | iGod | Haven't we all |
| 10:31:43 | gmoz | yeah |
| 10:31:45 | iGod | 360 drag view thing? |
| 10:31:49 | iGod | That could be possible with it |
| 10:31:51 | iGod | I guess |
| 10:32:02 | gmoz | Yeah |
| 10:32:04 | gmoz | That might be good |
| 10:32:18 | iGod | http://www.osource.co.uk/changelog-suitable-patch-code-001.php |
| 10:32:35 | Ramunas | nicomen: it works :P |
| 10:32:37 | gmoz | I'm working on getting flight search results from Kayak.com to my widget =) |
| 10:32:44 | gmoz | It's *almost* working |
| 10:32:48 | nicomen | iGod: ? |
| 10:33:12 | iGod | Just a general page to use |
| 10:33:44 | gmoz | In case you haven't tried yet |
| 10:33:45 | gmoz | http://widgets.opera.com/widget/6831 |
| 10:33:50 | Ramunas | scrolling to sides works too \o/ |
| 10:33:53 | gmoz | Check out the new map with markers! |
| 10:33:55 | gmoz | :D |
| 10:33:59 | nicomen | Ramunas: of course ;) |
| 10:34:05 | gmoz | Now I have a map too, in your face, multimap! |
| 10:34:06 | gmoz | =) |
| 10:34:09 | nicomen | iGod: what's wrong with diff -ru ? |
| 10:34:27 | iGod | The public can't follow it easily? |
| 10:34:46 | iGod | Plus you can add descriptions to that and write complete changelogs with it |
| 10:35:02 | iGod | Rev 003 has a complete changelog example which is pretty cool! |
| 10:35:09 | nicomen | the public can't follow diff -ru ? |
| 10:35:20 | iGod | You can't write a complete changelog of it |
| 10:35:38 | nicomen | I don't understand |
| 10:36:06 | nicomen | btw. how does it cope with say a change in line 1 and a change in line 1000 |
| 10:36:19 | iGod | The oSource version is just pretty easy to follow |
| 10:36:24 | iGod | Add 2 blocks |
| 10:36:36 | iGod | We through that together in like 10 minutes |
| 10:36:44 | iGod | The second revision is lying on my desktop at home |
| 10:37:25 | iGod | Anyway |
| 10:37:36 | nicomen | I thikn diff -ru is as human readable and easy to add in changelogs, ok, so it lacks meta data like author and such, but I'm sure one can add that easily too |
| 10:37:38 | iGod | We need to work out why Opera has less market share than Firefox, even before the Google thing |
| 10:38:33 | nicomen | hehe |
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| 10:40:18 | iGod | hi |
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| 10:42:20 | gmoz | I'd guess Opera has less geek appeal than Firefox |
| 10:42:43 | iGod | Actually, I'm a geek and I *was* addicted to Firefox |
| 10:42:58 | gmoz | Yeah, you used firefox before Opera as most people do |
| 10:43:00 | iGod | But now I use Opera (as much as my boss hates it and tells me not to) |
| 10:43:11 | iGod | But then I thought I'd start writing my own browser last night |
| 10:43:14 | gmoz | Opera is also haunted by its history |
| 10:43:26 | iGod | So at Midnight I was building a Gecko browser with Mail and widgets and chat etc. |
| 10:43:31 | gmoz | The interface wasn't very pretty in the older releases |
| 10:43:36 | gmoz | It used to have the ad box |
| 10:43:38 | iGod | Bringing Firefox and Opera together (hopefully) |
| 10:43:39 | iGod | Yeah |
| 10:43:41 | iGod | I remember that |
| 10:43:46 | iGod | And i remember the day it went free |
| 10:43:51 | iGod | :D |
| 10:43:53 | gmoz | Even though it's a long time since the ad box and interface, many people still think it has an ad |
| 10:43:55 | iGod | Good day! |
| 10:44:19 | gmoz | I cracke... I mean bought a key in the older version! |
| 10:44:23 | gmoz | *cough* |
| 10:44:26 | iGod | lol |
| 10:44:30 | Ramunas | iGod: good day indeed, I joined Opera IRC and community that day |
| 10:44:31 | Ramunas | :) |
| 10:44:38 | iGod | I downloaded Opera |
| 10:44:41 | Ramunas | gmoz: same here :) |
| 10:44:42 | iGod | Found my sites didn't work |
| 10:44:48 | iGod | And went back to Fx |
| 10:44:53 | iGod | Today I am so pr0 they just work ;) |
| 10:46:47 | gmoz | I'm so pro that I won $$$ from Widget World Cup but can't get a job because no one is hiring |
| 10:46:50 | gmoz | Bleh |
| 10:46:58 | gmoz | =) |
| 10:47:07 | Ramunas | gmoz: move to norway then :P |
| 10:47:16 | Ramunas | and be a widget dev or something |
| 10:47:17 | Ramunas | :) |
| 10:47:42 | gmoz | jeg ikke sproek norske or something |
| 10:47:58 | gmoz | and I don't have enough money for moving there anyway :P |
| 10:48:11 | gmoz | and I would want to be 100% sure of the job before doing that as well |
| 10:48:21 | nicomen | we speak english in Opera anyway |
| 10:48:28 | gmoz | Yeah kind of expected that =) |
| 10:48:45 | Ramunas | well make a deal for the job, then move |
| 10:48:46 | Ramunas | :) |
| 10:49:03 | gmoz | I haven't heard of anyone doing e-interviews |
| 10:49:07 | gmoz | but I haven't asked either :P |
| 10:49:35 | nicomen | nicomen has changed the topic to: Web applications | Wave to your mum: http://webapps.opentheweb.org | No private messages and keep on topic |
| 10:50:02 | | -!- * Ramunas waves |
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| 10:51:33 | gmoz | o_o |
| 10:51:42 | gmoz | mwahaha |
| 10:51:54 | Ramunas | ? |
| 10:52:19 | gmoz | I think prefixing messages with [off] makes 'em now show there :P |
| 10:52:36 | Ramunas | nicew |
| 10:52:37 | Ramunas | *nice |
| 10:52:38 | Ramunas | :) |
| 10:52:54 | gmoz | *not |
| 10:54:29 | gmoz | hmm |
| 10:54:33 | gmoz | I need a third loading-animation |
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| 10:54:54 | gmoz | the small one I have now isn't very visible on the flight search result page |
| 10:56:02 | gmoz | http://iikeli.ath.cx:3000/projects/travel/flightsearch.jpg |
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| 10:56:14 | gmoz | was actually easier to integrate them that I expected |
| 10:56:22 | gmoz | same as the map :P |
| 10:56:57 | iGod | Argh |
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| 11:22:24 | iGod | Oh they all died again :( |
| 11:22:58 | Ramunas | we're still alive! |
| 11:23:13 | iGod | Woo |
| 11:29:08 | aleksanteri | yes we are \o/ |
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| 11:30:44 | nicomen | dragscroll script now doesn't need modifier key if scrolling an image |
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| 11:32:20 | Ramunas | updated? |
| 11:32:56 | iGod | Hasn't changed |
| 11:34:19 | Ramunas | nicomen: that script is usefull for viewing pics, I do that a lot |
| 11:34:25 | Ramunas | like this one: http://ramunas.rc6.org/P5128063.JPG |
| 11:35:17 | iGod | How big do you want an image!! |
| 11:35:26 | Ramunas | 8mpix big |
| 11:35:27 | Ramunas | :P |
| 11:35:44 | iGod | pff |
| 11:36:00 | iGod | What happened to good old 1megapixel cameras! |
| 11:36:14 | Ramunas | I have one on my desk right now |
| 11:36:21 | Ramunas | 1.3mpx Olympus c100 |
| 11:36:22 | Ramunas | :P |
| 11:36:29 | Ramunas | or D-370 in EU |
| 11:36:32 | iGod | lol |
| 11:36:50 | iGod | My phone will do me! |
| 11:36:52 | Ramunas | and 8mpx E500 right next to it, with a BIG lens |
| 11:36:55 | Ramunas | :P |
| 11:39:11 | iGod | :P |
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| 11:45:58 | nicomen | Ramunas: I know ;) |
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| 11:46:53 | iGod | http://www.osource.co.uk/discussion_boards |
| 11:46:54 | iGod | :D |
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| 12:07:56 | dantesoft | nicomen: hi |
| 12:08:06 | iGod | Hi |
| 12:08:07 | dantesoft | are you sure http://people.opera.com/nicolasm/userjs/dragscroll works ? :) |
| 12:08:19 | iGod | Guys tested it |
| 12:08:41 | dantesoft | i see we have steve jobs with us here |
| 12:08:43 | nicomen | dantesoft: hm, yes? |
| 12:09:03 | nicomen | dantesoft: what's wrong? |
| 12:09:16 | dantesoft | i put a posterror in " if (dragging) {" and nothing |
| 12:09:26 | dantesoft | nothing happens.. |
| 12:09:39 | dantesoft | is "shiftKey" ok like that ? |
| 12:09:52 | nicomen | yup |
| 12:10:00 | nicomen | is window.onload being run? |
| 12:10:49 | dantesoft | nope |
| 12:11:12 | nicomen | have you put it in the right place and enabled user js? ;D |
| 12:11:42 | dantesoft | :) yes, an posterror outside the "window.onload = function() {" line prints in console |
| 12:15:28 | nicomen | weird |
| 12:15:41 | nicomen | ah maybe other events |
| 12:15:45 | nicomen | hold on |
| 12:17:46 | nicomen | redownload |
| 12:17:56 | nicomen | (probably several scripts doing window.onload = foo; |
| 12:17:57 | nicomen | ) |
| 12:18:59 | iGod | Not catering for IE users then? |
| 12:19:10 | dantesoft | hehe :) i had independently arrived at the same conclusion :) |
| 12:19:20 | iGod | if(ie) window.attachEvent(foo, bar, false) |
| 12:19:24 | nicomen | I try to follow the standards, if IE doesn't it's their problem |
| 12:19:29 | dantesoft | works now |
| 12:19:34 | nicomen | in addition, User JS doesn't work in MSIE |
| 12:20:02 | iGod | So you only cater for Opera |
| 12:20:12 | nicomen | no |
| 12:20:35 | dantesoft | would left-right be too much of a bother ? |
| 12:20:43 | nicomen | I try to follow open standards, I'm sure that script works in GreaseMonkey too |
| 12:20:48 | nicomen | dantesoft: ? |
| 12:21:05 | iGod | dantesoft what page are you using the script on? :D |
| 12:21:10 | dantesoft | drag horisontally |
| 12:21:20 | nicomen | dantesoft: horisontal drag should work |
| 12:21:35 | nicomen | iGod: it works on any page, just put it in a drawer dedicated for User JS |
| 12:21:36 | dantesoft | 1s |
| 12:21:37 | iGod | Plus IE does follow some standards, just not addeventlistener |
| 12:21:48 | nicomen | iGod: yup |
| 12:22:05 | nicomen | but this is not a script to be used on servers, it's for user clients that support User Javascript |
| 12:22:16 | iGod | Sooo |
| 12:22:19 | iGod | Every browser virtually |
| 12:22:28 | nicomen | no, just browser that support that |
| 12:22:45 | dantesoft | a big local image |
| 12:22:49 | dantesoft | opera scales by default, apparently |
| 12:22:51 | nicomen | User Javascript is basically a system to allow a user to run his own javascript files on top of any page |
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| 12:23:05 | nicomen | dantesoft: ctrl+f11 (fit-to-width) |
| 12:23:06 | iGod | Okay but Javascript is already run at user-end |
| 12:23:20 | iGod | oh |
| 12:23:21 | iGod | wait |
| 12:23:21 | iGod | no |
| 12:23:23 | iGod | I see |
| 12:23:29 | nicomen | iGod: this drag script when put in the right folder, will allow the user to drag on any page he visits |
| 12:23:42 | iGod | Yeah Yeah I see |
| 12:23:44 | nicomen | hold on, I'll try to find some proper info on UserJS |
| 12:23:46 | iGod | Opera n00b here :p |
| 12:23:49 | iGod | userjs.org |
| 12:24:02 | nicomen | http://www.opera.com/support/tutorials/userjs/ |
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| 12:24:17 | iGod | ok |
| 12:24:19 | iGod | But surely |
| 12:24:28 | iGod | The script can still be referenced and used from a web page |
| 12:24:28 | dantesoft | nicomen: thanks |
| 12:24:32 | dantesoft | works even on google maps |
| 12:24:45 | | -!- * dantesoft expected image dragging to interfere |
| 12:24:54 | nicomen | iGod: yes it can, and if someone wants to adapt it to older non-standard browsers, they may freely do tht ;) |
| 12:25:01 | nicomen | dantesoft: hm, good point |
| 12:25:43 | iGod | Well Opera isn't exactly new it wouldn't take much adapting |
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| 13:35:35 | osource_co_uk | '< |
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| 15:01:24 | osource_co_uk | hi |
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| 22:04:44 | gmoz | I really like Aptana |
| 22:04:50 | gmoz | It says I have a syntax error and underlines a word |
| 22:04:59 | gmoz | I remove the word, the error disappears |
| 22:05:03 | gmoz | I type it again |
| 22:05:11 | gmoz | and it doesn't show up again |
| 22:05:21 | gmoz | How nice would it be if you could just erase syntax errors like that? |
| 22:05:22 | gmoz | =) |
| 22:05:28 | Ramunas | :) |
| 22:10:02 | gmoz | bleh |
| 22:10:08 | gmoz | why can't you give a table row a margin |
| 22:15:46 | gmoz | grrr :| |
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| 22:18:30 | gmoz | http://iikeli.ath.cx:3000/projects/travel/flightresults.jpg |
| 22:18:36 | gmoz | Whadya think =) |
| 22:22:19 | dantesoft | the tabs need a bit more 2.0 :) |
| 22:24:19 | gmoz | Eh |
| 22:24:22 | gmoz | And you say it NOW? |
| 22:24:23 | gmoz | =) |
| 22:24:49 | gmoz | It's +4 versions from the initial release already ;) |
| 22:25:08 | gmoz | *3 |
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| 22:28:25 | gmoz | I don't feel comfortable with the 10 |
