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| 00:31:03 | pixelation | I'm having trouble finding a proxy that supports outgoing information. |
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| 00:59:23 | pixelation | Anyone know of a proxy server that doesn't log information and can handle outgoing information (such as posting on an image board, forum etc.)? |
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| 01:02:28 | ion_sea_saw | '< |
| 01:03:56 | ion_sea_saw | hi im new to this so sorry 4 the stupid question but most of the web based apps are written in javascript arnt theuy? |
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| 01:21:18 | pixelation | Nope. |
| 01:21:30 | pixelation | Most (I am guessing) are in php. |
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| 07:06:49 | Andy | hi |
| 07:06:59 | Andy | fjffjjfjfjfjfjjffjuck |
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| 08:03:42 | pixelation | Can someone tell me if my homeserver is up: http://baw.selfip.net |
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| 08:08:17 | DiscoStud | pixelation: doesn't seem so, not on port 80 at least |
| 08:08:49 | pixelation | Mind if I PM you DiscoStud? |
| 08:08:54 | DiscoStud | sure |
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| 15:11:58 | docwhat | Hello! I'm having a weird problem with Opera and YUI. It seems like the mousedown's event.pageY is not lining up with the YAHOO.util.Dom.getY(thingy_I_clicked_on). |
| 15:14:05 | nicomen | Im not familiar with YUI unfortunately |
| 15:14:14 | nicomen | what do you mean by lining up? |
| 15:21:27 | docwhat | I have an event for mousedown registered on an element. |
| 15:21:43 | docwhat | When I get the event and check the pageY, I get something like: 452 |
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| 15:22:15 | docwhat | However, when I use the getY() function on the element, I get 377 (with a height of only 24px). |
| 15:22:46 | docwhat | As you can see 377+24 = 401, which is much less than 452 (where the click allegedly happened). |
| 15:25:44 | docwhat | Strangely, offsettop is 451 which is right what I expect. So YAHOO's getY is broken some how.... |
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| 15:29:36 | nicomen | hm |
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| 15:33:33 | docwhat | Okay, so there is a loop in the getXY that walks through the parents of the element. |
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| 15:34:09 | docwhat | If the parent's display is not 'inline', then it substracts the scrollLeft and scrollTop (from x & y respectively) |
| 15:37:15 | docwhat | It seems that when it gets to the table's td that encompasses this element, (display == 'table-cell') it subtracts the scrollTop, which is what changes it from 451 to 377. |
| 15:38:43 | docwhat | The TD in question is displayed across the whole page, but it shouldn't have a scrollTop of anything but 0 at the moment because the page scroll's bar is at the top. |
| 15:41:42 | docwhat | Strangely enough, it looks like 74, the scrollTop, is EXACTLY the same as the offsetTop. |
| 15:41:51 | docwhat | I'm thinking this is a strange Opera bug. |
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| 15:42:07 | docwhat | Is there a bug channel? |
| 15:42:10 | gmoz | The getPos function from quirksmode.org has worked perfectly fine for me |
| 15:42:24 | docwhat | the getXY from YAHOO works fine too, EXCEPT HERE. |
| 15:42:25 | docwhat | :-) |
| 15:43:06 | gmoz | suggest replacing it with findPos from quirksmode =) |
| 15:43:49 | nicomen | docwhat: can you make a testcase? |
| 15:44:07 | docwhat | nicomen: I'll try making a smaller one. |
| 15:44:12 | nicomen | docwhat: excellent |
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| 15:44:53 | nicomen | if you want you can file a bug at http://bugs.opera.com/wizard |
| 15:45:38 | nicomen | with a testcase one can see the problem immeditaly, and if it's a bug it may even become part of testing efforts so that the bug doesn't reappear |
| 15:46:04 | nicomen | however it could be some of the edities of the browser being in quirksmode or supporting some css style that other's dont etc.. |
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| 15:48:50 | docwhat | nicomen: Here's a test case. The symptom is the left-right sliders don't work on the ratings graph: http://vivisimo.com/food |
| 15:50:11 | nicomen | docwhat: there's a width css bug |
| 15:50:21 | docwhat | What's that? |
| 15:50:30 | nicomen | line 779 in food.css |
| 15:51:56 | nicomen | shouldn't matter I guess |
| 15:52:01 | nicomen | but it's ok to sort those out ;) |
| 15:52:16 | docwhat | Ah, I thought you meant in opera. I think that's fixed else where. The demo pages trail everything else. |
| 15:52:57 | nicomen | ok |
| 15:54:33 | nicomen | it's a bit too much code to quickly sort out though |
| 15:54:45 | nicomen | is there some way you could extract the rating part? |
| 15:56:56 | nicomen | which element exactl is the problematic one? |
| 15:57:12 | docwhat | In that demo, I'm not sure.... |
| 15:57:23 | docwhat | I'd have to design a much smaller page, but that'd take a bit of work. |
| 15:57:32 | nicomen | aaah ok |
| 15:57:44 | nicomen | so what exactly are you saying |
| 15:57:48 | docwhat | It's frustrating, because I have similar code that *does* work correctly on different pages. |
| 15:58:22 | docwhat | Actually, I have the same code that works correctly on different pages. Something about the layout causes the scrollTop to not be zero. |
| 16:00:20 | docwhat | gmoz: The code from quirks mode is very similar to the yui one. It doesn't have code for dealing with scrolling areas, though. And that code is what's tripping this bug in opera. |
| 16:08:23 | docwhat | I'm seeing if I can make a minimalistic version. |
| 16:19:44 | docwhat | Augh. This is hard. :-/ |
| 16:24:40 | docwhat | Interestingly, it looks like YUI is already aware of an opera bug....it has this comment above the section: |
| 16:24:40 | docwhat | // work around opera inline scrollLeft/Top bug |
| 16:24:52 | docwhat | I'm guessing that this happens with table-cell as well. :-( |
| 16:25:27 | docwhat | table-row, I mean. |
| 16:29:00 | docwhat | bleh. |
| 16:36:29 | nicomen | heh |
| 16:37:08 | Remco | docwhat: Do they work around a bug or are they breaking it because it was fixed in Opera itself? |
| 16:37:21 | docwhat | It looks like a workaround. |
| 16:37:42 | docwhat | I'm getting a non-zero scrollTop on an element that doesn't have scrollbars. |
| 16:38:17 | docwhat | In otherwords, if the scrollHeight == offsetHeight, then scrollTop MUST BE 0 |
| 16:39:37 | docwhat | YUI bug: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1576570&group_id=165715&atid=836476 |
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| 16:51:24 | Tim | hi all |
| 16:51:43 | Orcinus | hello |
| 16:52:10 | gmoz | http://my.opera.com/zomg/blog/2007/06/19/funny-windows-2000-translation-mistake |
| 16:52:11 | Tim | where u from? |
| 16:52:12 | gmoz | =) |
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| 18:49:21 | letham | can anybody help me with icq |
| 18:49:33 | nicomen | what do you need help with? |
| 18:50:17 | letham | I am a new user of the icq |
| 18:50:27 | nicomen | what do you need help with? |
| 18:50:35 | letham | and donot know how to enter into it |
| 18:50:50 | letham | how can I enter the icq |
| 18:50:52 | nicomen | where? |
| 18:51:03 | letham | www.icq.com |
| 18:51:11 | nicomen | you need to download the program |
| 18:51:29 | letham | I have downloaded it |
| 18:51:44 | letham | I do not what shall I do after that |
| 18:51:51 | nicomen | install it and run it |
| 18:51:58 | nicomen | then register or add your icq details to it |
| 18:52:12 | nicomen | but, I know little of mirabilis' software |
| 18:52:21 | nicomen | ask something about opera and webapps and I might know more |
| 18:52:38 | letham | ok thanx a lot |
| 18:52:54 | letham | u know more than me about that |
| 18:53:13 | nicomen | it's probably been 7 years since I used mirabilis icq on windows |
| 18:53:22 | nicomen | nowadays I just use bitlbee |
| 18:53:27 | letham | oh that's a long time |
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| 18:53:38 | letham | ok |
| 18:53:49 | letham | that's something I do not even know |
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| 18:54:19 | nicomen | it's a gateway kind of between msn,icq,jabber,yahoo chat, aol chat and IRC |
| 18:54:30 | nicomen | so I can use Opera or another IRC client instead |
| 18:54:56 | letham | oh great |
| 18:55:05 | letham | but too complex I think |
| 18:55:20 | nicomen | maybe |
| 18:55:29 | nicomen | requires you to read it carefully ;) |
| 18:55:47 | letham | I am a newuser of this engine that's my problem |
| 18:56:00 | letham | ok thanx a lot man for your clarifications |
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| 19:21:27 | seki1234 | http://s1.metaldamage.pl/c.php?uid=224156 |
| 19:21:37 | aleksanteri | nicomen: spam.. |
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| 19:22:49 | nicomen | polish racing game? |
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| 19:27:32 | gmoz | Spam: the polish racing game |
| 19:28:03 | gmoz | The winner is the one who spams channels #start #lap1 #lap2 #lap3 and then is first to spam #finish |
| 19:28:06 | gmoz | =) |
| 19:28:13 | aleksanteri | lol |
| 19:28:47 | nicomen | haha |
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| 20:46:10 | Marisa | aleksanteri aleksanteri aleksanteri aleksanteri aleksanteri aleksanteri aleksanteri aleksanteri aleksanteri aleksanteri aleksanteri aleksanteri aleksanteri aleksanteri aleksanteri aleksanteri aleksanteri aleksanteri aleksanteri aleksanteri aleksanteri aleksanteri aleksanteri aleksanteri aleksanteri aleksanteri aleksanteri aleksanteri aleksanteri aleksanteri aleksanteri aleksanteri aleksanteri |
| 20:46:28 | Ramunas | nicomen: can you ban her please? |
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| 20:46:43 | Ramunas | she's been annoying him for a few days already |
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| 23:47:46 | janbar | s zostal tam wklejony? |
| 23:47:46 | janbar | ;] |
| 23:48:53 | janbar | srry, wrong channel ;] |
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