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| 13:52:58 | LarsKL | any JS guy, what's wrong with <a onclick="document.getElementById('content').style.background-color = 'red';"> ? |
| 13:53:37 | aleksanteri | s/.background-color/.backgroundColor/g |
| 13:54:39 | LarsKL | ah, thx |
| 13:54:55 | aleksanteri | you're welcome |
| 13:54:55 | LarsKL | why did they use backgroundcolor there while the css property has a - ? |
| 13:55:04 | aleksanteri | i don't know |
| 13:55:26 | LarsKL | and changing the text in a div? |
| 13:55:35 | LarsKL | document.getElementById('content').text = "new text"? |
| 13:56:08 | aleksanteri | .innerHTML = "new text" |
| 13:56:27 | LarsKL | that will replace the whole element, won't it? |
| 13:56:29 | Orcinus | LarsKL: because - means subtraction in JS, silly |
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| 13:56:43 | LarsKL | oh, i could do it easier.. |
| 13:56:49 | LarsKL | how do i set a class? |
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| 13:56:55 | LarsKL | add a class, that is |
| 13:56:58 | Orcinus | It would mean "document.getElementById('content').style.background" MINUS a variable named "color" |
| 13:57:04 | aleksanteri | .classname = "class" |
| 13:57:06 | aleksanteri | i think that's it |
| 13:57:15 | Orcinus | className |
| 13:57:24 | aleksanteri | ah yeah |
| 13:57:25 | Orcinus | the N is capitalized |
| 13:57:31 | LarsKL | thx |
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| 13:58:36 | LarsKL | will that add or replace classes? |
| 13:58:48 | aleksanteri | replace |
| 13:59:08 | aleksanteri | element.className = element.className + " newclass" |
| 13:59:19 | aleksanteri | ^^ adds |
| 13:59:59 | LarsKL | doesn't work |
| 14:00:07 | aleksanteri | hmm. |
| 14:00:13 | LarsKL | <div id="status" style='position: relative; top: -98px' class="false"> |
| 14:00:16 | LarsKL | document.getElementById('status').classname = "warn"; |
| 14:00:23 | aleksanteri | className :P |
| 14:00:38 | Orcinus | lol |
| 14:00:42 | LarsKL | still doesn't work |
| 14:01:00 | LarsKL | hm, wait |
| 14:01:01 | LarsKL | it does |
| 14:01:08 | LarsKL | stupid opera was using a cached version |
| 14:01:13 | LarsKL | even though cache is disabled... |
| 14:02:22 | LarsKL | what did those guys creating js think? |
| 14:02:36 | Orcinus | about what? |
| 14:02:38 | LarsKL | having to write className sucks |
| 14:02:51 | LarsKL | why not make it all lower-case? |
| 14:03:26 | Orcinus | Because all DOM methods and properties are camel case |
| 14:03:33 | Orcinus | Like getElementById |
| 14:03:35 | Orcinus | etc |
| 14:03:45 | LarsKL | sucks |
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| 14:12:26 | LarsKL | hm.. |
| 14:13:09 | * | LarsKL wonders how to place 2 elements of the same size behind each other, without using stuff like position:relative; top: -100px; |
| 14:13:19 | LarsKL | both elements have width:100% |
| 14:13:28 | LarsKL | therefore float doesn't do the job |
| 14:18:21 | Orcinus | position:absolute; ? |
| 14:18:36 | LarsKL | not possible in that page |
| 14:18:57 | LarsKL | would place it somewhere completly wrong |
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| 14:20:32 | * | LarsKL is redoing http://browsercheck.larskl.de/ btw |
| 14:20:42 | Orcinus | not possible, eh? Well, that's too bad. |
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| 14:24:43 | LarsKL | Orcinus: check http://browsercheck.larskleinschmidt.de/avi |
| 14:24:47 | LarsKL | with plugins enabled |
| 14:25:03 | LarsKL | the <embed> is placed one level too high |
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| 14:25:40 | Orcinus | You are trying to cover the video? |
| 14:25:45 | LarsKL | no |
| 14:25:48 | LarsKL | other way around |
| 14:25:53 | LarsKL | the video is covering a div |
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| 14:28:34 | Orcinus | okay |
| 14:29:18 | LarsKL | if you have any good ideas.. |
| 14:29:53 | LarsKL | i have no idea why it thinks <div id="content"> is the parent element... |
| 14:32:30 | LarsKL | hm, it seems that setting position: absolute; for the parent <div> makes it recognize that one as parent |
| 14:32:38 | LarsKL | but then display is of course fucked... |
| 14:35:26 | Orcinus | Why are you using embed though? Do you need it to work in IE? |
| 14:35:35 | LarsKL | yes |
| 14:35:50 | LarsKL | and embed is the only solution working in all browser |
| 14:38:02 | aleksanteri | and embed doesn't work for widgets (not for me -.- ) |
| 14:39:35 | Orcinus | well... I would used a floated or absolutely positioned div (so it collapses around content), and apply only position:relative; to the embed, while positioning the div you want to cover absolutely at 0px 0px. Instead of giving the background colour to the absolutely positioned div, apply it to the parent element. |
| 14:41:12 | LarsKL | like now? doesn't work |
| 14:43:17 | Orcinus | The current configuration on your page doesn't match what I just said |
| 14:43:40 | LarsKL | float doesn't work, i already said that earlier |
| 14:46:35 | * | LarsKL thinks about going back to the pos:rel hack |
| 14:46:57 | nicomen | heh just hacked together a typewriter thingy someone else needed btw |
| 14:47:06 | nicomen | javascript:typewrite(document.body,"hahaha",1000,0); function typewrite(elem,text,timeout,index) { elem.textContent += text[index]; if (++index<text.length) { setTimeout(function() {typewrite(elem,text,timeout,index); },timeout); } } |
| 14:53:29 | Orcinus | http://www.greywyvern.com/tmp/larskl/avi.xml |
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| 14:55:02 | gmoz | Oh how much I dislike using ++foo or foo++ outside its own line... |
| 14:55:24 | * | LarsKL tries to to figure out the difference between that code and what i used before |
| 14:55:37 | gmoz | it just makes for confusing code ;| |
| 14:55:52 | Orcinus | gmoz ? |
| 14:56:10 | gmoz | using ++foo or foo++ inside something |
| 14:56:22 | Orcinus | I like that |
| 14:56:24 | LarsKL | Orcinus: thanks, trying to figure out why mine didn't work now |
| 14:56:39 | Orcinus | LarsKL: np |
| 14:57:27 | gmoz | You don't write doSomething(); doSomethingElse(); on a single line for a reason |
| 14:57:39 | gmoz | therefore you shouldn't write doSomething(foo++); either =) |
| 14:58:08 | Orcinus | Why not? |
| 14:58:16 | Orcinus | I like things to be compact |
| 14:58:48 | gmoz | Because it makes for bad readability |
| 14:59:11 | Orcinus | bah. You're just a bad reader :P |
| 14:59:47 | gmoz | You'd usually want to perform a single action per line |
| 15:00:12 | nicomen | gmoz: I slightly agree with you |
| 15:00:32 | nicomen | consider the code above public domain and feel free to edit it |
| 15:00:37 | LarsKL | Orcinus: i copied your code and it doesn't work... |
| 15:00:46 | gmoz | It probably seems as clear as the sky when you write it |
| 15:01:01 | gmoz | but even small things like that may make it annoying to figure out what it does later =) |
| 15:01:02 | LarsKL | did you change the css file as well? |
| 15:01:08 | Orcinus | How should I write a for loop then? Like this? |
| 15:01:16 | gmoz | for loop is a for loop :P |
| 15:01:17 | Orcinus | var x = 0; |
| 15:01:17 | Orcinus | for (;;) { |
| 15:01:17 | Orcinus | if (x < 9) break; |
| 15:01:23 | Orcinus | // do something |
| 15:01:23 | Orcinus | x++; |
| 15:01:23 | Orcinus | } |
| 15:02:01 | gmoz | You expect the for loop to have something like that in it and when it's in a for loop it's clear how it works so it doesn't present a similar problem |
| 15:02:21 | Orcinus | hrms hrms |
| 15:04:15 | gmoz | You could write that as while(x++<9) too (I think) |
| 15:04:20 | gmoz | but you wouldn't (I hope) |
| 15:04:21 | gmoz | =) |
| 15:04:41 | Orcinus | I think good commenting and blocking is a lot more important for readability than making doubly sure people understand where are your increments and decrements are |
| 15:05:12 | gmoz | true |
| 15:05:24 | Orcinus | gmoz: you would have to declare the variable first |
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| 15:05:38 | gmoz | I wonder if you could embed that inside the while() too... =) |
| 15:05:39 | Orcinus | var x = 0; while (x++ < 9) { ... } |
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| 20:59:06 | LarsKL | can anyone help me with a JS problem? |
| 20:59:32 | pffYussupov | u can always ask |
| 20:59:47 | LarsKL | http://upload.larskleinschmidt.de/-/file.php?670f |
| 20:59:58 | LarsKL | check some boxes and press the "=" button |
| 21:00:08 | LarsKL | works fine in Opera 9 but not in FF |
| 21:00:24 | LarsKL | what's wrong there? |
| 21:04:16 | pffYussupov | dunno |
| 21:04:28 | pffYussupov | works on opera like u said |
| 21:04:30 | pffYussupov | but not on ff |
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| 21:04:42 | pffYussupov | did u try debugging it with web developer on ff? |
| 21:05:00 | LarsKL | pffYussupov: i don't know anything about JS |
| 21:05:08 | pffYussupov | heh |
| 21:05:11 | pffYussupov | me too |
| 21:05:17 | pffYussupov | well, i know lil |
| 21:05:37 | pffYussupov | but web developer is pretty handy if u want to debug web pages in ff |
| 21:05:40 | pffYussupov | its a plugin |
| 21:05:43 | pffYussupov | i recommend firebug too |
| 21:06:14 | LarsKL | i know, but i don't know what the stuff i read in that error log means |
| 21:06:28 | pffYussupov | what does it say the error log? |
| 21:06:54 | LarsKL | that "doCalcb" is a undefined variable |
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| 21:07:07 | LarsKL | but it's not a variable, it's the name of the function |
| 21:07:15 | LarsKL | so i don't get what that wants to tell me |
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| 21:07:58 | pffYussupov | means u may have some syntax error which make the browser thinks u have wrongly written a variable |
| 21:08:28 | LarsKL | looks ok to me (with my small JS knowledge) |
| 21:09:07 | gmoz | uh |
| 21:09:11 | gmoz | did you actually try it in FF :P |
| 21:09:16 | LarsKL | gmoz: yes |
| 21:09:22 | gmoz | I immediately got an error in the error console |
| 21:09:23 | LarsKL | gran paradiso that is |
| 21:09:27 | gmoz | var sumy = 0, |
| 21:09:31 | gmoz | line 21, undefined variable |
| 21:09:33 | gmoz | er |
| 21:09:35 | gmoz | I mean missing variable name |
| 21:09:36 | gmoz | :P |
| 21:09:54 | LarsKL | hm, that's not what mine says... |
| 21:10:01 | LarsKL | what do i have to change there? |
| 21:10:05 | gmoz | var suma = 0, |
| 21:10:05 | gmoz | var sumy = 0, |
| 21:10:05 | gmoz | var sumz = 0, |
| 21:10:05 | gmoz | var sumv = 0, |
| 21:10:06 | LarsKL | in the code |
| 21:10:10 | gmoz | what.. on earth.. is that? |
| 21:10:10 | Orcinus | change those , to ; |
| 21:10:13 | gmoz | yeah =) |
| 21:10:17 | LarsKL | ah |
| 21:10:18 | LarsKL | thx |
| 21:10:24 | * | LarsKL didn't write that code |
| 21:10:35 | Orcinus | excuses excuses :P |
| 21:10:43 | LarsKL | i just copy and pasted it from some websites |
| 21:10:47 | LarsKL | and it worked in opera |
| 21:10:58 | Orcinus | A likely story :P |
| 21:11:06 | gmoz | What does that even do, calculates some values depending on what's checked? |
| 21:11:16 | LarsKL | gmoz: yes |
| 21:11:24 | Orcinus | I thought it was some color selector... |
| 21:11:32 | LarsKL | it's for monopoly |
| 21:11:39 | pffYussupov | heh |
| 21:11:41 | gmoz | I wonder if the person who made that wrote all those If(....) suma += ... lines |
| 21:11:51 | LarsKL | gmoz: that was me |
| 21:12:07 | gmoz | Okay... =) |
| 21:12:20 | LarsKL | didn't write them of course, copy&paste i figured out ;) |
| 21:12:47 | gmoz | I like the element IDs though |
| 21:12:50 | gmoz | aa, ab |
| 21:12:54 | gmoz | jb! |
| 21:12:57 | gmoz | jailbait |
| 21:13:24 | gmoz | I'd kinda think more along the lines of a for-loop |
| 21:13:42 | LarsKL | <LarsKL> pffYussupov: i don't know anything about JS |
| 21:13:48 | gmoz | Yeah I noticed that |
| 21:13:58 | gmoz | but I always start thinking about better ways to do something when I see source code |
| 21:14:01 | gmoz | =) |
| 21:14:04 | LarsKL | i can do serverside (php), but not js |
| 21:14:59 | Orcinus | JS is more similar to PHP than many other languages |
| 21:15:21 | Orcinus | If you give it a few months, it should get easier :) |
| 21:15:28 | gmoz | Yep |
| 21:16:39 | gmoz | for(var i = 0; i < myform.length; i++) |
| 21:16:39 | gmoz | { |
| 21:16:39 | gmoz | var input = myform[i]; |
| 21:16:39 | gmoz | if(input.type == 'checkbox' && input.checked) |
| 21:16:39 | gmoz | suma += input.value; |
| 21:16:41 | gmoz | } |
| 21:16:44 | gmoz | there we go ;> |
| 21:17:04 | LarsKL | gmoz: won't that add up ALL fields? |
| 21:17:09 | Orcinus | summa cum laude |
| 21:17:30 | gmoz | well from a quick look it seemed like it sums all checked fields |
| 21:17:31 | LarsKL | the a? b? stuff must not be added to the y? z? and probability? |
| 21:17:46 | LarsKL | it sums all a? |
| 21:17:57 | gmoz | ahh |
| 21:17:59 | LarsKL | it's 4 sums |
| 21:18:00 | gmoz | there's sumy too |
| 21:18:03 | gmoz | and z |
| 21:18:10 | gmoz | yeah what did I say earlier.. hmm |
| 21:18:25 | gmoz | Oh I didn't mention it yet but I like the variable names too... |
| 21:18:25 | gmoz | =) |
| 21:18:29 | LarsKL | if you look at it (rendered, not code) the left column is added, the second from left, then the 4 at the right |
| 21:18:34 | LarsKL | and the 2 lines at the bottom |
| 21:18:46 | gmoz | okay |
| 21:19:14 | gmoz | Well, something like that loop, anyway. =) |
| 21:19:41 | LarsKL | my hack works fine for my needs :) |
| 21:20:09 | gmoz | well as long as it works for you and you don't have to change it =) |
| 21:20:21 | gmoz | changing that is probably a major PITA |
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| 21:21:18 | LarsKL | not going to put that stuff online or anything like that |
| 21:21:30 | LarsKL | it's just for localhost |
| 21:21:53 | LarsKL | for online monopoly, in case you're insterested: http://www.webgame-portal.de/ |
| 21:23:27 | gmoz | turn time |
| 21:23:29 | gmoz | is that in.. hours? |
| 21:23:29 | gmoz | :P |
| 21:23:32 | LarsKL | yes |
| 21:23:45 | LarsKL | you don't play it live |
| 21:23:50 | gmoz | thought so =) |
| 21:23:54 | LarsKL | it's more like you join 20 games |
| 21:24:00 | LarsKL | and then play once a day or so |
| 21:24:01 | gmoz | too lazy for anything like that :D |
| 21:24:08 | LarsKL | it's fun! |
| 21:24:17 | gmoz | I like my games fast paced with the exception for FreeCiv and some others =) |
| 21:24:17 | LarsKL | i love board games |
| 21:24:38 | Orcinus | if you join so many games, you're sure to win a few :D |
| 21:25:10 | LarsKL | Orcinus: i actually was #1 in highscores for about half a year |
| 21:25:43 | Orcinus | Only because I hadn't been playing :P |
| 21:25:50 | LarsKL | wanna join? |
| 21:25:59 | LarsKL | i'll open some games for us :) |
| 21:26:24 | aleksanteri | no thanks i'm busy building my lfs system :P |
| 21:26:44 | LarsKL | aleksanteri: sounds interesting |
| 21:26:52 | Orcinus | Maybe during the winter and fall, when I spend more time at the comp |
| 21:27:06 | aleksanteri | LarsKL: yep :) |
| 21:27:18 | aleksanteri | it's also really hard at times lol |
| 21:27:21 | LarsKL | aleksanteri: i wasn't too serious bout that :P |
| 21:27:38 | aleksanteri | heh |
| 21:27:53 | aleksanteri | doesn't change the fact i still must keep on with it lol |
| 21:28:30 | gmoz | lfs system? |
| 21:28:41 | aleksanteri | yeah |
| 21:28:44 | gmoz | Only thing I can think of is a leet setup for playing Live For Speed |
| 21:28:49 | gmoz | but somehow I'm feeling it's not that |
| 21:28:52 | gmoz | =) |
| 21:28:53 | aleksanteri | lol |
| 21:29:00 | aleksanteri | http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ ;) |
| 21:29:11 | gmoz | right, right =) |
| 21:29:29 | gmoz | Why are you doing that anyway? |
| 21:29:57 | aleksanteri | just got interested on making my own linux system |
| 21:30:10 | gmoz | okay |
| 21:32:29 | gmoz | that sounds like gentoo |
| 21:32:30 | gmoz | kinda |
| 21:32:41 | gmoz | at least for the part that you have to compile everything yourself |
| 21:33:11 | aleksanteri | yeah |
| 21:33:39 | aleksanteri | configuring the linux kernel is a pain lol |
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