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| 06:53:30 | narowmind | anyone know a replacement for object.watch OR object.addevent('onpropertychange',,) OR object.__defineSetter__ that works in Opera |
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| 14:24:36 | coxy | help plz |
| 14:25:01 | coxy | anyone? |
| 14:25:55 | Remco | With? |
| 14:25:57 | coxy | I've having hover / opacitiy problems in IE6: http://www.thedirection.co.uk/ssp_intl/dev/contact/ |
| 14:26:12 | Remco | Are you using filter? |
| 14:26:17 | coxy | the problem being that on hover, the opacity doesn't increase to 100% |
| 14:26:22 | coxy | and i tried, but it didnt work. |
| 14:26:27 | coxy | or seem to :/ |
| 14:29:17 | Orcinus | opacity doesn't work in IE |
| 14:32:08 | coxy | um, it kinda does. |
| 14:32:10 | Remco | "the opacity doesn't increase to 100%" makes me believe it works already |
| 14:32:32 | coxy | its not working on hover, and that's the problem |
| 14:32:54 | coxy | i really need a fix... as in, half and hour |
| 14:33:01 | coxy | if anyone can help, that'd be ace |
| 14:33:37 | Remco | coxy: Try setting the width and height of the flag images to 100% |
| 14:33:37 | coxy | ...if not, i probably get sacked for wanting to code correctly. |
| 14:34:18 | Remco | I don't have IE to test here, so it's guessing a bit |
| 14:36:40 | Orcinus | CSS "opacity" doesn't work in IE :P |
| 14:36:47 | Orcinus | That's what I meant |
| 14:37:21 | Remco | The thing is, he set it to 0.5 already and setting it to 1 doesn't work :S |
| 14:38:37 | Remco | I know that opacity doesn't work in IE however. You need filter: alpha for that or something |
| 14:40:13 | Orcinus | in IE6 here, there isn't even any partial transparency |
| 14:40:39 | Orcinus | all the flags are 100% opaque |
| 14:44:23 | Orcinus | The finnish email address is too long and breaks the page in IE6 |
| 14:47:58 | coxy | Orcinus: you on SP1 or SP2? or does that not make a difference? |
| 14:50:13 | Orcinus | SP2, I believe. Don't think it should make a difference |
| 14:50:22 | coxy | so fustrating. |
| 14:50:28 | Orcinus | one moment |
| 14:54:55 | Orcinus | I can't my copy of IE6 to display the flags with any transparency at all :| |
| 14:57:11 | Orcinus | It may be because I'm running multiple versions of IE at once |
| 14:57:56 | coxy | strange. i see the transparency at 50% but then, it wont jump to 100 |
| 14:57:59 | coxy | on hover |
| 15:00:58 | Orcinus | Aha! |
| 15:01:12 | Orcinus | How silly of me |
| 15:01:32 | Orcinus | IE6 does not support the :hover pseudoclass on anything but <a> elements |
| 15:01:55 | Orcinus | so IE6 is ignoring your .flags img:hover { ... } rule |
| 15:03:01 | Orcinus | you could add a little script to add onmouseover = function() { this.className = "hover"; } and onmouseout = function() { this.className = ""; } |
| 15:03:17 | Orcinus | Then change the rule to .flags img.hover { ... } |
| 15:32:04 | coxy | well, i'll try reversing it first so it's a:hover img {} instead of img:hover {} |
| 15:32:18 | coxy | i'm not that cool with javascript - if i need to, can i call on your help? |
| 15:32:34 | Orcinus | sure |
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| 15:40:07 | gmoz | Does anyone know a JS framework/library/whatever with a sortable table? |
| 15:40:15 | gmoz | I'm feeling lazy |
| 15:40:17 | gmoz | =) |
| 15:48:07 | coxy | there's some in the YUI |
| 15:48:15 | coxy | http://developer.yahoo.com |
| 15:49:04 | coxy | Orcinus: I can't get this opacity thing to work. What's the javascript solution? |
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| 16:15:49 | gmoz | the one in YUI doesn't suit to what I want |
| 16:15:53 | gmoz | (in place editing) |
| 16:16:23 | Orcinus | the javascript solution is to apply the onmouseover and onmouseout function above to each flag image |
| 16:16:44 | gmoz | the YUI DataTable has some in place editing features but it's missing a select editor |
| 16:16:59 | gmoz | + it isn't able to send the edits with AJAX, or at least I wasn't able to figure out how |
| 16:17:16 | gmoz | and mixing it with in place editing from Scriptaculous doesn't work very well |
| 16:20:20 | coxy | Orcinus: cheers; but i sorted it. because i was only running some Javascript from the link, it didn't have a href. And it needed one, apparently. |
| 16:20:22 | coxy | :( |
| 16:20:24 | coxy | all day |
| 16:21:06 | Remco | If you get paid for it, it's not that bad ;) |
| 16:21:49 | gmoz | you should probably just use javascript:something as the href if you're using the link solely to run JS |
| 16:25:04 | Orcinus | I love getting paid for this :D |
| 16:27:31 | coxy | Remco: it is bad. because everyone in here is a designer, cept one, who codes like it's 1995 |
| 16:27:49 | coxy | and so, i'm trying to do things right, and this guy's like 'use tables to do layout, it's easier' |
| 16:28:03 | coxy | and 'put a table here instead of all these divs' |
| 16:28:09 | Orcinus | hehe |
| 16:28:24 | Orcinus | sometimes bastard tables can be your only recourse |
| 16:28:33 | coxy | and the designers think its like photoshop, and i can click and drag things about |
| 16:29:02 | coxy | when I was trying to postition a logo precisely, to the pixel, of where they'd said, one of the guys said "can you not just click and drag it" |
| 16:29:18 | Orcinus | don't just avoid them because they're "wrong". You should understand how the alternative method you want to use is actually the "better way" |
| 16:29:48 | coxy | well, i use tables for tabular data |
| 16:29:56 | coxy | or stuff like those flags that you seen |
| 16:30:03 | coxy | i dont use tables to layout a website |
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| 16:30:33 | aave | hi |
| 16:30:42 | Orcinus | ave! |
| 16:30:54 | aave | ? |
| 16:31:24 | Orcinus | ave caesar! |
| 16:34:08 | aave | heh |
| 16:34:49 | gmoz | coxy: you should tell the guys why tables are better so they'd learn 0) |
| 16:34:51 | gmoz | *=) |
| 16:34:55 | gmoz | errrrr |
| 16:34:58 | gmoz | why DIVS are better |
| 16:34:59 | gmoz | >_> |
| 16:35:08 | * | Orcinus slaps a large trout around a bit with gmoz |
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| 16:36:46 | coxy | haha |
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| 17:46:34 | coxy | can someone help me again, plz |
| 17:46:36 | coxy | :( |
| 17:46:45 | coxy | let me go home from work by fixing my problem |
| 17:47:31 | coxy | Remco? |
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| 19:56:14 | dawisky | http://my-schamhaar.de/showpage.php?uid=43055 |
| 19:56:14 | dawisky | http://my-schamhaar.de/showpage.php?uid=43055 |
| 19:56:15 | dawisky | http://my-schamhaar.de/showpage.php?uid=43055 |
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| 19:56:16 | dawisky | http://my-schamhaar.de/showpage.php?uid=43055 |
| 19:56:16 | dawisky | http://my-schamhaar.de/showpage.php?uid=43055 |
| 19:56:16 | dawisky | http://my-schamhaar.de/showpage.php?uid=43055 |
| 19:56:17 | dawisky | http://my-schamhaar.de/showpage.php?uid=43055 |
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| 19:56:18 | dawisky | http://my-schamhaar.de/showpage.php?uid=43055 |
| 19:56:27 | Lars_G | dawisky: fuck off and die |
| 19:56:40 | dawisky | http://my-schamhaar.de/showpage.php?uid=43055 |
| 19:56:41 | dawisky | http://my-schamhaar.de/showpage.php?uid=43055 |
| 19:56:43 | dawisky | http://my-schamhaar.de/showpage.php?uid=43055 |
| 19:56:52 | dawisky | http://my-schamhaar.de/showpage.php?uid=43055 |
| 19:56:57 | Lars_G | nicomen: help please |
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| 20:13:03 | gmoz | hmm |
| 20:13:09 | gmoz | Found an intresting feature from Firefox |
| 20:13:27 | gmoz | For some reason it doesn't like Scriptaculous' in place collection editor on TD's |
| 20:13:36 | gmoz | the whole thing just disappears without trace and no errors either |
| 20:13:41 | gmoz | works perfectly fine in Opera and IE |
| 20:13:47 | gmoz | but if you add a div inside the TD it works fine |
| 20:14:01 | gmoz | and set the editing to the div instead of the td |
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| 20:57:15 | gmoz | intresting |
| 20:57:22 | gmoz | the basic inplaceeditor doesn't work |
| 20:57:24 | gmoz | EVEN with a div |
| 20:57:26 | gmoz | >_> |
| 20:57:34 | gmoz | shitty browser is shitty |
| 20:57:43 | Orcinus | O RLY? |
| 20:58:11 | gmoz | intrestingly enough IE fails very spectacularily in those edit fields |
| 20:58:12 | gmoz | =) |
| 20:58:46 | gmoz | but it should work since it works on scriptaculous wiki |
| 21:01:12 | gmoz | ugh, stupid me |
| 21:01:28 | gmoz | of course it doesn't work in firefox because I forgot to put .firstChild in the basic editor.. |
| 21:01:45 | gmoz | well, it should work without the whole div anyway! |
| 21:02:04 | gmoz | wow, it started working in IE too now |
| 21:02:07 | gmoz | the selects still fail, though |
| 21:03:08 | Orcinus | I guess chatting to yourself can help you think out some problems, but it still sounds weird :) |
| 21:04:20 | gmoz | haha yeah |
| 21:04:29 | gmoz | I do that quite often actually :P |
| 21:05:02 | gmoz | it's also in the hope that someone knows a fix to the problem I encounter =) |
| 21:05:29 | Orcinus | well, don't look at me :D |
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| 21:31:52 | gmoz | hrm. Now it's broken in Opera but works in IE and FF... :| |
| 21:32:54 | gmoz | oh |
| 21:32:59 | gmoz | it does work but it was just incccredibly laggy |
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| 22:31:22 | akcay | hello can someone help me please? |
| 22:33:08 | gmoz | What's the problem? |
| 22:34:03 | akcay | i can't view localhost with opera? |
| 22:35:21 | gmoz | You can |
| 22:36:04 | gmoz | Of course you need to have the necessary server running on your PC first |
| 22:36:40 | akcay | yes i have iss? |
| 22:37:16 | gmoz | Have you tried it with any other browser? |
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| 22:38:50 | akcay | yes |
| 22:38:56 | akcay | i tried with ie and firefox. |
| 22:39:23 | gmoz | What does Opera say when you try to open the page? |
| 22:39:56 | akcay | its tell me username and password.. |
| 22:40:36 | akcay | firefox was given to me some problem but i resolve them.. about:config and change the settings.. |
| 22:40:44 | akcay | but i dont know how can i change them with opera. |
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