Webapps chatlog - 2007-07-25

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02:33:48 jackndanni ello everyone
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02:49:26 kyleabaker- quick question about "border-radius" (both -moz and -webkit). if I apply a border radius, overflow:hidden, and a background image..shouldn't the corners of the back ground image be chopped off with overflow set to hidden?
02:50:38 kyleabaker- i'm trying to add a little css3 to my personal website and am testing in ff3 and safari, but in ff3 the background image does now follow overflow:hidden as I imagined it should.
02:51:01 kyleabaker- maybe it is a bug, but just checking here since you all usually know what I'm talking about.
02:53:10 fearphage i personally don't know. but hey kyle
02:53:50 kyleabaker- hey fearphage
02:54:13 kyleabaker- i'm excited about kestrel so I can start testing some of this in Opera finally
02:55:09 fearphage it gets pretty dead here
02:55:31 fearphage ummm excited why? did i miss something?
02:55:52 fearphage to my knowledge, no kestrel this week
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02:59:47 kyleabaker- i know there is no kestrel this week, but I've been excited for months, lol
03:00:04 kyleabaker- each weeks seems to turn up as another small disappointment, haha
03:02:17 kyleabaker- ok, safari seems to be rendering the div as I expected, it seems that ff3 does not have this feature fully implemented just yet
03:09:09 fearphage safari release a new beta?
03:17:29 kyleabaker- no, but the current one is rendering it correctly
03:17:50 kyleabaker- they have updated it a couple times, but I think it was just for security fixes
03:43:11 fearphage kyle, you list your 5 yet?
03:43:43 fearphage junyor's list is by far my favorite so far. http://weblog.timaltman.com/node/862
04:04:29 kyleabaker- fearphage: those are some excellent wishes! i posted mine here, but they are typical of a non guru like me (just your average Opera fanatic list).. http://www.kyleabaker.com/news_comments.php?news=44
04:05:45 kyleabaker- i was gonna tag you, but i couldn't find a blow of yours anywhere, hehe, so I wasn't sure if you'd make one, I'll add you to my tagged list if you want tho
04:08:33 fearphage no, i'm tagged already
04:08:40 fearphage just haven't written anything
04:08:43 fearphage thanks though
04:09:34 kyleabaker- np
04:10:16 kyleabaker- sad to say my list isn't awesome, but they are all improvements that I personally could really use
04:10:27 kyleabaker- let me know when you make your list!
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04:26:49 fearphage lots of people talk about improving the interface but i can only think of one improvement i would like
04:26:56 fearphage what do you use widgets for?
04:27:04 fearphage i wish i could completely disable them
04:30:04 kyleabaker- i just use them occassionally, but I just feel like if they are there anyway then they could really be improved on to allow more interaction with Opera so we could do more than read a feed with them, lol
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04:52:21 fearphage so youuse them as an rss reader? what else? i've been through the widgets and foundnothing useful
04:52:32 fearphage only thing i've ever used were games
05:11:18 kyleabaker- no, i don't use the rss readers, that was just a joke, the only ones that I have are: ruler, calculator, google translator, touchtheSky and stay secure
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09:20:42 gmoz I made a widget for changing your MyOpera status :P
09:21:49 aleksanteri lol nice
09:22:29 aleksanteri i have one nice idea in my mind but i need opera to support widget transparecy for that >_>
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09:23:35 gmoz Huh?
09:23:43 gmoz Oh yeah you're on crappix
09:23:45 gmoz *cough*
09:24:20 DrLaunc1 Huh?
09:24:42 gmoz 12:18 < aleksanteri> i have one nice idea in my mind but i need opera to support widget transparecy for that >_>
09:24:52 gmoz Transparency doesn't work in widgets on Linux
09:25:50 DrLaunc1 Well. Isn't that Opera's fault?
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09:26:31 gmoz So?
09:26:52 gmoz :P
09:27:05 aleksanteri crappix?
09:27:07 DrLaunch My point is... Are you calling it crappix because Opera doesn't work as well there?
09:28:46 aleksanteri and i'm on kubuntu now again, not on lfs anymore
09:28:48 gmoz I'm calling it crappix for fun
09:28:49 gmoz =)
09:29:00 DrLaunch lol
09:29:12 aleksanteri lol
09:29:25 DrLaunch Just like people call /it/ windoze. :D
09:43:59 gmoz Gaahh.
09:44:08 gmoz This is totally random
09:44:17 gmoz I changed the size of the input fields in the widget
09:44:19 gmoz AND IT DOESNT WORK ANYMORE
09:44:21 gmoz wtf
09:45:41 DrLaunch (_._) ?
09:46:30 gmoz What's with the ass? :P
09:47:09 DrLaunch Answer me when I ask you a question!
09:47:41 DrLaunch (_._) !? for ( . )( . ) sake!
09:48:16 aleksanteri rofl
09:48:37 Remco gmoz: You double tagged someone :(
09:48:44 gmoz what?
09:48:47 gmoz :P
09:50:18 Remco drlaunch was already tagged
09:50:28 Remco And he double tagged too :|
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09:50:40 pooja hi
09:50:55 gmoz Oh like I care :P
09:51:17 gmoz I don't have time to go through all the blogs in the world to see if someone else happened to tag someone I tagged
09:51:29 DrLaunch Remco: Are you talking about two different games?
09:51:29 Remco He did say he responded to yours, so that will make sure the tree doesn't get to deep
09:51:33 Remco No
09:51:46 Remco http://download.remcol.ath.cx/tagging.html
09:54:21 Remco Grr, weird characters
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09:55:13 gmoz Oh for christs sake the widget broke again even though I didn't touch the ajax stuff...
09:55:28 aleksanteri oh i'm tagged
09:56:15 DrLaunch Hah! Aza got tagged!
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09:58:01 pooja hiiiiiiiiii
09:58:13 Remco DrLaunch: You double tagged too btw
09:58:22 DrLaunch Hmm.
09:58:37 Remco Furie was already tagged
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09:58:58 Remco http://my.opera.com/sugarwinx/blog/2007/07/22/the-5-things-id-like-to-see-on-opera-tag-game <= from there
09:59:54 DrLaunch Ah.
10:00:11 DrLaunch Am I supposed to be ashamed of myself?
10:00:25 Remco No, but you can change it ;)
10:00:43 Remco I hide the double tags with css, but they're all on the page
10:01:09 DrLaunch Hmm. Good idea.
10:02:56 DrLaunch But I already sent a PM to Furie.
10:03:03 Remco Oh, leave it then
10:03:12 Remco I'll sort it out later
10:04:15 DrLaunch Sort it out?
10:05:28 aleksanteri hmm
10:05:45 * aleksanteri is writing the tag blog post
10:05:58 aleksanteri but first, i can't figure out my 5th "wish"
10:06:10 aleksanteri and secondly, all people i was going to tag are tagged already
10:07:09 Remco DrLaunch: I can't put the people he tagged in two places, so where he will go depends on what he writes or what I find the most convenient
10:07:20 DrLaunch Ah.
10:09:22 Remco I'll have to check all the blogs that don't have posts though... and that list is growing rapidly
10:09:42 DrLaunch Oww.
10:09:56 gmoz http://widgets.opera.com/widget/7202
10:10:01 gmoz There we go
10:10:04 gmoz =)
10:13:37 DrLaunch Hmm. Doesn't work.
10:13:49 aleksanteri Remco: http://my.opera.com/aleksanteri/blog/2007/07/25/tagged
10:14:14 Remco I'll add it in a bit :)
10:14:34 gmoz Eh, it doesn't?
10:14:36 gmoz It works for me :P
10:14:51 gmoz LOl
10:14:53 gmoz it doesn't
10:14:58 gmoz It's always trying to change MY status =D
10:15:00 gmoz *oops*
10:15:20 aleksanteri LOL
10:15:46 gmoz Okay
10:15:49 gmoz Now it should work :D
10:15:50 DrLaunch lmao
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10:17:13 pooja hiiiiiiiiiiiiii]
10:17:16 gmoz They will soon have similar problems as Twitter had :P
10:17:35 Remco aleksanteri: Link to forsens blog on yours please :)
10:17:41 gmoz Well, who knows... they're not using RoR so probably not.
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10:18:01 aleksanteri Remco: ok
10:18:23 DrLaunch What problems did Twitter have?
10:18:40 aleksanteri Remco: done
10:19:00 Remco The tree is updated too :)
10:19:51 Remco If you need people to tag, compare the tree with http://my.opera.com/Opera/xml/foaf/ ;)
10:20:29 gmoz DrLaunch: their service couldn't take the load of all the people microblogging
10:20:42 gmoz It was because Ruby on Rails doesn't apparently scale very well
10:20:55 Remco aleksanteri: Any group will give you a nice listing, or you can just pick random people from the people page. Just make sure their blogs are relatively active
10:21:17 aleksanteri hmm
10:22:03 Remco I'll go get lunch, let me know if you update
10:22:24 aleksanteri ok
10:23:01 gmoz I'm so used to using Prototype that I was having trouble remembering how XHR works without it :P
10:23:16 gmoz (was initially having a small problem not related to Prototype after all)
10:24:27 gmoz Oh well, Prototype *is* the superior AJAX/DOM library =)
10:31:14 aleksanteri never used it lol
10:34:43 gmoz You should, it wins the web 2.0's
10:34:44 gmoz :P
10:34:46 gmoz hmm
10:34:52 gmoz I wonder if Opera Mini is able to open local content
10:35:04 gmoz Ie. if I moved some html docs to my phone, would it be able to open them
10:35:28 gmoz the phone isn't able to open them on its own at least
10:39:02 gmoz Apparently not.
10:39:10 gmoz J2ME lets you do it with file://localhost/foobar/baz
10:39:18 gmoz but that doesn't seem to work
11:05:42 aleksanteri hm
11:09:08 aleksanteri this script should work but it just doesn't
11:09:19 gmoz hmm?
11:10:35 aleksanteri trying to make window decorations to widgets
11:10:45 aleksanteri but it just doesn't work
11:12:17 gmoz window decorations? o_o
11:16:38 aleksanteri yeah
11:23:05 aleksanteri hmm
11:23:15 aleksanteri the script does it's work good
11:23:20 aleksanteri the stylesheet is just b0rked
11:25:48 gmoz What is a window decoration :P
11:26:02 aleksanteri lol
11:26:05 aleksanteri .
11:32:21 gmoz http://www.explosm.net/comics/967/
11:32:27 gmoz Cyanide and Happiness is so totally awesome.
11:32:29 gmoz =D
11:33:27 gmoz "Whoa! HTML 5!"
11:33:40 gmoz "You know what this means?"
11:33:51 gmoz "Yeah. One more standard to be ignored, warped then claimed by Microsoft as its invention."
11:33:54 gmoz =)
11:33:56 gmoz Go UF
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11:57:40 Bumblebee hey all
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13:04:16 gmoz hmm
13:04:27 gmoz I really should clean up my desktop (both in RL and Windows' :P)
13:04:59 gmoz It accumulates more and more stuff and it's again almost filled with mostly useless crap
13:10:18 aleksanteri RL?
13:10:44 Ramunas Real LIfe
13:10:51 Ramunas ever heard of that?
13:10:52 Ramunas :P
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14:30:46 aleksanteri Remco: updated the "tag post"
14:34:14 Remco aleksanteri: Updated
14:34:18 aleksanteri ok
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15:03:07 fearphage Remco: you get my message about haavard?
15:03:36 Orcinus Are you talking about haavard behind his back?
15:03:56 Remco fearphage: Yes, I did
15:04:09 Remco And it's in the tree
15:04:14 aleksanteri Orcinus: they are :P
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16:31:52 fearphage Orcinus: wait until you quit and we'll talk about you too
16:31:56 fearphage ;p
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16:32:12 fearphage lets go back to talking about haavard for now
16:32:28 fearphage that haavard is a true stand up individual. a leader in his community.
16:32:34 fearphage i hope my kids grow up to be just like him
16:32:49 aleksanteri you're haavard's fan fearphage?
16:32:51 aleksanteri :D
16:33:28 gmoz Brownnose
16:34:00 fearphage :) i actually don't have any relationship with haavard... unless he posts on the dtt blog. i often get him confused with hallvord... who i have worked with on some browser.js issues. still i don't know him well enough to suck up to him like that
16:34:04 fearphage it was all in fun
16:36:06 aleksanteri heh
16:36:13 aleksanteri i've mixed haavard and hallvor sometimes too
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16:40:09 gmoz I have no idea who this hallvor person is :P
16:40:20 Ramunas gmoz: then read his blog
16:40:21 Ramunas :P
16:40:30 gmoz I have no idea what's the address
16:40:49 gmoz and I doubt it's worth my time anyway =)
16:40:55 gmoz Well, if anyone can link it I'll take a look
16:40:56 gmoz hehe
16:41:17 gmoz There's actually only one blog I follow at the moment
16:41:23 Ramunas mine?
16:41:24 Ramunas :)
16:41:38 gmoz well, two, but the other is updated very rarely and nowadays the content isn't even that intresting anymore
16:41:44 gmoz Coding Horror
16:42:30 Orcinus haavard is okay. He used to be kind of snappish
16:43:52 Orcinus http://my.opera.com/hallvors/blog/
16:44:30 Orcinus And I did mean haavard, just you asked for the link to Hallvord's blog
16:44:37 gmoz Yeah =)
16:44:46 gmoz Oh, that's hallvord
16:44:50 gmoz I've seen his picture before :P
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17:25:53 kamal hallo
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21:58:33 Christy hi
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22:01:26 Christy hey people
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22:09:39 Hottie heyyyyyyyyyyy
22:10:34 Remco Hottie: Do *NOT* send private messages without permission!
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22:53:43 fearphage any of you have experience with .net in linux?
22:54:00 * aleksanteri not
22:56:07 Ramunas not me
22:58:46 fearphage ok, thought i'd ask
23:15:19 gmoz I've installed mod_mono for apache once
23:15:24 gmoz and did some quick tests
23:15:29 gmoz but other than that, not really
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23:34:18 fearphage thanks gmoz. i'm actually trying to compile csharp now
23:34:20 fearphage not fun
23:40:31 gmoz yeah I had some major package dependency issues too
23:40:56 gmoz installed it from apt but still had a lot of problems :P
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